Top image caption: Attendees of the Fourth International Rangzen Conference in Paris

Why is MP Juchen Konchok opposing the Dalai Lama’s middle way approach to Tibet’s issue. The Dalai Lama has spoken countless times he does not want independence but genuine autonomy for Tibet which is called the middle way approach. Yet you have MP Juchen Konchok and the conference people talking about full Rangzen or full independence. They are breaking their spiritual samaya (damstik) with the Dalai lama by opposing his views directly. They are opposing the Dalai Lama. When you oppose the Dalai Lama whether politically or spiritually within the Tibetan diaspora, you are asking for problems including segregation, ostracization and perhaps losing your standing within the community. People who continue with the Protector Dorje Shugden practice are treated with malice, hatred, segregation and violence because it is seen not as religious freedom but opposing the Dalai Lama. Now the Rangzen activists are said to be allegedly even more ‘dangerous’ within the spectrum of groups that conflict with the Dalai Lama’s views. I guess the Rangzen people will have to tolerate the label of opposing Dalai Lama when your views are different as the Dorje Shugden people have for decades. They will suffer the same verbal and perhaps physical attacks for having a view different than the Dalai Lama’s just like the Shugden people. They will be labelled the agents of the Chinese because within the Tibetan communities, this is the best way to brow-beat people into submission or to create segregation for a person or group. Whether you are an agent of China or not does not matter. That label is powerful as the CTA uses this on the groups that do not fall in line with their ‘democratic’ rule. This is how it works within the Tibetan communities under the CTA.

There are around 140 people, mostly Tibetans, who gathered in Paris recently for the Fourth International Rangzen Conference. As noble as the objective may seem, the question is, how effective would the conference be? What impact could these 140 plus people have created? The truth is this, these people are only speaking among themselves, telling each other what they have already known. There are no press, journalists or media of international calibre who can further spread their message globally. So how was this conference effective?

The idea of Rangzen (full independence for Tibet) directly opposes the Middle-way approach which the Dalai Lama has been advocating for decades, so whatever that opposes the Dalai Lama will be crushed by the Dalai Lama immediately, so who would listen to what these 140 people have to say? They are only talking among themselves for self-serving purpose and would accomplish nothing else.

It is also shocking that there are actually some members of parliament from the Tibetan government in exile (Central Tibetan Administration or CTA) Dharamsala present in the conference, so this is evidence that the CTA is actually opposing the Dalai Lama behind his back. To quote MP Juchen Konchok “Rangzen conference like this are individual initiative and this is not an effort to oppose His Holiness the Dalai Lama but revival of Tibetan independence”. This statement may sound polite, but if this is not opposing the Dalai Lama, then what is it? The Dalai Lama clearly says he wants the Middle-way and not full independence for Tibet (Rangzen), and the Middle-way Approach is even boldly stated on CTA’s website, so what is Juchen Konchok and other representatives of CTA attending and even giving speeches in this Rangzen conference, showing their support?

The Dalai Lama says very clearly, we want Middle-way, and yet they all are having a big ‘momo party’ about independence (Rangzen). Their meeting is meant to destabilize the Dalai Lama’s work and it is dangerous, and it creates disharmony within Tibetans. When you oppose the Dalai Lama within the Tibetan communities, no matter right or wrong, you are perhaps inviting trouble. It is not democratic in Tibet’s ‘Shangrila’ at all. For the sake of receiving US billions of dollars in aid from the United States alone to the Tibetan government in exile or now known as Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), they have to keep up appearances of a fledgling democracy to continue this free aid. This meeting in Paris, France of all places, spells trouble and sees its conference goers as a direct opposition to the powerful Dalai Lama and his policies.

Progressive MP Tenpa Yarphel (standing) who has vehemently defended Lukar Jam in the past is known to be progressive, modern and very in feel with the pulse of modern times. Known for fearlessly speaking out against wrong policies and downtrodden, is also in the Paris conference speaking against the Dalai Lama’s views in this matter. Does this undermine the Dalai Lama’s work towards autonomy?

Progressive MP Tenpa Yarphel (standing) who has vehemently defended Lukar Jam in the past is known to be progressive, modern and very in feel with the pulse of modern times. Known for fearlessly speaking out against wrong policies and downtrodden, is also in the Paris conference speaking against the Dalai Lama’s views in this matter. Does this undermine the Dalai Lama’s work towards autonomy?

Mr. Lukar Jam who was a past candidate for President (Sikyong) of Central Tibetan Administration has advocated full freedom with no compromise for Tibetans. He composed a poem as a tribute to Elliot Sperling which was seen as an affront to the Dalai Lama allegedly wishing Elliot Sperling would live longer instead of the Dalai Lama. The Tibetan diaspora instantly retaliated with all forms of defamation against Lukar Jam on social media leading to his car in Dharamsala being smashed and him being thrown out of a restaurant in Dharamsala

Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar, another attendee of the three day conference in France to oppose the Dalai Lama’s middle-way. More Tibetans are speaking against the Dalai Lama’s all powerful directives.

Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar, another attendee of the three day conference in France to oppose the Dalai Lama’s middle-way. More Tibetans are speaking against the Dalai Lama’s all powerful directives.

MP Monlam Tharchin who is the representative for the Bon sect in Parliament in CTA also attended this conference giving his support for full independence (Rangzen) which opposes the Dalai Lama’s middle-way policy for Tibet. Why is  Monlam Tharchin suddenly countering the middle-way in which the Dalai Lama has spoken countless times in recent years to many world leaders?

MP Monlam Tharchin who is the representative for the Bon sect in Parliament in CTA also attended this conference giving his support for full independence (Rangzen) which opposes the Dalai Lama’s middle-way policy for Tibet. Why is  Monlam Tharchin suddenly countering the middle-way in which the Dalai Lama has spoken countless times in recent years to many world leaders?

Former MP Tethong Wangpo is a long term activist for full independence of Tibet. It has been 60 years since the ‘lost’ of Tibet. Will independence happen during the lifetime of hopeful Wangpo who has attended the meeting which is in direct opposition of the Dalai Lama’s clear instructions to work towards the middle-way or autonomy. Will this type of opposition to the Dalai Lama serve the Tibetans well?

Former MP Tethong Wangpo is a long term activist for full independence of Tibet. It has been 60 years since the ‘lost’ of Tibet. Will independence happen during the lifetime of hopeful Wangpo who has attended the meeting which is in direct opposition of the Dalai Lama’s clear instructions to work towards the middle-way or autonomy. Will this type of opposition to the Dalai Lama serve the Tibetans well?



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  1. Tsering Lhakpa-ByLakuppe

    August 22, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    I follow His Holiness Dalai Lama all the way! If His Holiness says middle way and not rangzen, then we must follow. If we go against the His Holiness we break our spiritual connection we call damstik in Tibetan. Damstik is spiritual samaya and if you break with your lama you go to vajra hell. Rangzen people are wrong to ask for Indpendence of tibet because Dalai Lama wants autonomy. Rangzen people must be Chinese agents for making problems in Tibetan communities.

  2. Dolma Tsering

    August 22, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    Professor Samdhong Rinpoche is a great follower of Dalai Lama. He visited Canada a few years back where we live and I had a chance to meet him.

    Professor Samdhong says the full Independence activists (rangzen) are more dangerous than Shugden people. I believe he is right. Professor’s speech:

    The Tibetan youth outside of India are starting to think that Rangzen activists are paid agents of the Chinese to disturb Tibetan peace.

  3. Lhasang from Switzerland

    August 22, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is against Dalai Lama. I am very sad for her.

  4. Rinchen Wangyal

    August 22, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Everyone who participated this conference may think they are doing a service for our country of Tibet but in fact they are not.

    1. They are going against Dalai Lama’s middle way of autonomy.
    2. Outsiders will see Tibetans as divided.
    3. They undermine Dalai Lama’s appeal to the international governments on help to have talks with China on autonomy.
    4. China’s government will be happy to see we are not united.
    5. People in the international arena will think not all Tibetans follow Dalai Lama and even if we have talks with the Chinese people will think not all Tibetans will agree to the talks as we are divided.

    Why are you all doing this. I don’t like to coming to this website but in this case, it is telling the truth. Are you all Chinese agents?

  5. Dhardon Darling

    August 22, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    Dear Dhardon Sharling, are you going to do something about this situation and the rangzen people going against the Dalai Lama or too ‘busy’ with Sikyong these days?

  6. Tsering Drolkar

    August 22, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    We young Tibetans have to get sweaters from Ludhiana and then travel all over Indian cities in cold weather time on the streets to sell sweaters to earn a living. the work is hard and small profit. We suffer so much. You Tibetan government people all go on holiday to Paris to enjoy hotel, good food adn just talk about rangzen? You crazy?? or traitors?. Dalai Lama is against rangzen and you are against Dalai Lama who is our holiness?

    Long live Dalai Lama!

  7. Shugden is dhogyal

    August 22, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    Dhogyal people always say something like lie. Stop talking

  8. Wangyal TCV-Dharamsala

    August 22, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    Why is MP Juchen Konchok attending a meeting that is against Dalai Lama’s views for umay lam? Dalai Lama is a god and can never be wrong. Shame on you to be against our holiness.

  9. Tenzin Palljor

    August 22, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    Lukar Jam is secret practice of Dorje Shguden. All Tibetans in India know this truthh. Don’t suport him.

  10. Acharya Ngawang Samten Chophel

    August 22, 2017 at 11:21 pm

    It is a very complex issue concerning Tibet’s independence. But to make it simpler for the ordinary layman, the Tibetan government in exile should do their up most best to win China’s friendship. I have friends in the CTA and we know the US government has given hundreds of millions in money, grants and assistance to the the Tibetan government in the last 60 years of exile. Very little has trickled down to the common Tibetans. The Tibetan government people do not want to lose the aid so they sacrifice their country for money. How is that? Very simple. If you wish to negotiate with China regarding Tibet, why are you running to the west at every opportunity. Why criticize the Chinese government? For 60 years China’s ruling government has been criticized by Tibetans in exile and it makes no dent. It makes zero difference in fact worsen the situation. Does that not mean there needs to be a change of strategy? Tibetan leaders including the Dalai Lama should stop criticizing China completely and reach out to make friends. Your gods, oracles, protectors, saviours, high lamas, CTA, magic and mysteries cannot get your country back. It was your fault in the first place for losing it. So it’s time to be polite to China and be friends. Make the first step. Why? Because China’s might and power is growing and Tibet is a lost cause otherwise.

  11. Konchok Tsewang

    August 22, 2017 at 11:25 pm

    In 1959, Nepal and Bhutan’s population was less than Tibet’s. Both these countries are smaller in size than Tibet. They were both not internationally well known. How come China did not eat them up and take over? Because their governments at the time was effective for keeping the independence. The government of Tibet in 1959 was lazy, greedy, uneducated, unexposed and severely corrupt coupled with arrogance and that is why they were easily taken over. The government in exile now in Dharamsala is exactly the same now as back then in 1959 and that is why it has been 60 years and they still cannot get Tibet back.

    The Tibetans will never get their country back because their government is inept.

  12. David Copperfield the 9th

    August 22, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    You know why I signed in as David Copperfield? Because it will take nothing short of MAGIC at the rate you are going now to get Tibet back from China!

    Tibetan leaders better be nice to China and stop criticizing them and stop sucking up to the west for more money for themselves because you are selling your country and your own people.

  13. Maritsa

    August 23, 2017 at 12:43 am

    Hahahahaha who are they talking to hahahahahaha in English we call that preaching to the choir. It’s like someone trying to convince the Pope that it’s good to be a Catholic.

    Useless conference and another excuse to spend public money and donations to go to holiday in Paris. Why do all of these meetings always happen in NEW YORK, PARIS, LONDON, BRUSSELS, GERMANY, SWITZERLAND? So many glamorous cities and places. How come not in INDIA???

  14. Syrah

    August 23, 2017 at 12:53 am

    Genuine question, why are the Tibetan leaders ALWAYS traveling? Like literally ALWAYS traveling to the point the Dalai Lama’s been told he has to stop cause he’s exhausted so there’s no Botswana for him? Is it some kindda nomadic thing or are they looking to Trump’s Mar El Largo visits for inspiration? Because I swear we get more news about them visiting different countries than announcements about actual work and accomplishments. This conference sounded like a total waste of time, what’d they do? Give speeches to each other about how great their ideas are? Jesus take a video, it’ll last longer. It’s just like those Pharma reps always getting sent for “team building” or “sales” retreats when everyone knows it’s just an excuse to use corporate funds to pay for a nice beach holiday.

  15. Michaela Smith

    August 24, 2017 at 3:37 am

    I would like to add as well:
    – For Lobsang Sangay to initially praise the self-immolation victims and therefore encouraged more to die for Free Tibet cause is against the Dalai Lama’s middle way wishes
    – For Lobsang Sangay to condemn China and continuously to contradict himself between supporting the Dalai Lama’s middle way effort and saying bad things about China at every occasion are also against the Dalai Lama’s middle way wishes.

  16. Dondrup Shugden

    August 25, 2017 at 3:59 am

    Another big event of an international conference to work on Tibetan’s Rangzen is a total comic played out to fool the poor Tibetans who may be impressed.

    It does not need an important place to meet to discuss something that for the last 60 years had not made even one step forward.

    Everyone in the conference oppose the Dalai Lama’s wish of the middle way. Politically that is treason and spiritually it is breaking samaya with the highest ranking Tibetan Monk in the world. What is the term for that?

    Therefore only one question, what is next after all the noise?

    When Dorje Shugden worshippers do not give up their practice, they do so in private and quietly to avoid punishment and abuse, but this group flaunt their rebellious opinions against the Dalai Lama in public.

    Once again, CTA and these freedom fighters, what is next for you? Planning another international conference of BIG talk?

  17. Elibuchen

    August 26, 2017 at 3:18 am

    Whether CTA sticks Umaylam or Rangzen, it does not matter one bit. They have not created the causes for freedom.

    What they have done to create the causes, to be shackled and oppressed.

    1. Oppression of Dorje Shugden practices leading to many Gelug people, giving up or living in much difficult circumstances. Split amongst the community of Sangha.
    2. Oppression of Dorje Shugden practices leading to the Sakya tradition to abandon the practices altogether.
    3. Recognizing the two Karmapas, of course Karmapa can be more than one at the same time, but the way they have done it, creates split and confusion. Trying to recognize their own line of reincarnate lamas as done in the Gelug tradition.

    Well they can try as much as they but if China, does not want to talk to them its just hot air. Why would China talk to CTA or Tibetans they have moral authority and let their own people burn for them?

  18. Camillia

    August 29, 2017 at 7:39 am

    It is shocking to see the CTA going against Dalai Lama’s instruction. But nothing is happening to them. Usually, when people go against the Dalai Lama, they will be dealt with, by Dalai Lama’s hardcore supporters with defamation, etc.

    Sentiment aside, will a voice opposing the Dalai Lama within the Tibetans in exile serve any purpose other than further fracturing the small and poor community.

  19. bambi

    August 29, 2017 at 10:32 am

    If in the beginning, everyone listen to what HHDL said, why not now? Kinda hypocritical right? People can choose to segregate and ostracize Dorje Shugden practitioners because HHDL said so. Yet when He wants middle way approach, people choose to go against it and come up with their own approach.

    To talk about independence, why need to go so far? You mean they can’t talk about it in India itself? Tibetans in exile said that its very hard to apply to go overseas, but how come these people can do so, easily?

    What the article said is true, what are these people trying to prove? They are just going back and forth with nothing conclusive. If they are trying to let the world know what they are trying to achieve, I don’t think it will work if there is no coverage on the event. So, at the end of the day, the main question is what were they trying to achieve.

    I am also wondering why the other members of CTA or Lobsang Sangay himself, not saying anything about this meeting? I am actually surprised! Unless, they don’t know (which I doubt it), they encouraged it or they can’t control their own people anymore. Maybe this new group is trying to prove that they can do something without CTA and also better at it. Well, the good thing about this meeting is that, more people are speaking up and fighting for something they believe in instead of always being suppressed by CTA.

  20. Tenzin K

    August 29, 2017 at 11:15 am

    This seems like a group of people that had lack of trust in HH the Dalai Lama. Wonder how they get the funding for such a luxury meeting.

    Dorje Shugden practitioners have not harm anyone but have been unreasonably suppressed and discriminate by CTA for the practice but how about this group of people that openly going against HH direction and show a division within the Tibetan? What is CTA going to say and do?

    I really want to see where actually this meeting will lead to and what is the strategy to make this realise.

  21. vajra-NMD

    August 29, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Whether it is Rangzen or Umaylam, Tibetans have wasted 60 years of their life and time to get their country back.

    The best time whereby China and CTA were negotiating was during the first Olympics games, that the Chinese held. Still the CTA botched it up and produce no results to speak of.

    Lets see how the Tibetans is going to move ahead with their Rangzen, they also do not have help from a leader like the Dalai Lama, a very tricky road ahead for the Tibetans.

  22. Geraldine Sarie

    August 29, 2017 at 11:25 am

    I just wonder why head of CTA Lobsang Sangay didn’t say anything about this conference? It’s obviously this group of people are opposing HHDL and Lobsang Sangay is supporting them from behind? When accusation arises, apparently these people were to be blamed and the person who conducted it be easily run free from allegation. Furthermore, who fund these 140 people to Paris for the conference? Where does the fund come from? What was the purposed of having their Rangzen Conference in Paris, to seek more fund or shopping spree?

  23. samayakeeper

    August 29, 2017 at 11:39 am

    Why did Lobsang Sangay allow some of the CTA members of parliment to attend this event? Why didn’t Lobsang Sangay take action against these traitors? Maybe Lobsang Sangay allowed them to attend because he wanted to test water to see if the Dalai Lama is ‘okay’ with it? And then wage another such but full scale event with all the CTA members of parliament attending to show he has influence and power over everyone including the Dalai Lama. Could it be because of this reason he allows those members of parliament to attend the event and then spend some time holidaying as perks? Another scenario may be those are disgruntled members of parliament who wanted to leave CTA because they are getting less of the millions of dollars the other CTA officials, who are better apple polisher, are getting. The rift in CTA is getting obvious, the inside fighting over power, control and money.

  24. Belinda Mae

    August 29, 2017 at 11:56 am

    First and foremost, why is the conference held in Paris? Any particular reason? Is this how the CTA wants to finish their money funded by other countries? Why can’t they have it in Dharamsala? What is the middle way approach about? There are so many doubts here. All I cansay is that, this is not a effective and productive conference.

  25. Aritis Rock

    August 29, 2017 at 1:15 pm

    Since the first day, CTA already harping on this opportunity of the Ban imposed to Dorje Shugden practice and used it to dig more money from various countries, it is political body that made a religious practice a controversial issue, it was CTA who took all the planning and actions to slam on Dorje Shugden issue.

    It is already so many years of this ban is going on, so many people has suffered from this ban, so many families has broken apart from this ban, so many people lost their life from this ban, and yet, CTA still keep saying Dorje Shugden is the devil that is breaking Tibetan up, it is so clear that who is the one playing this game and controlling over everything? It is CTA.

    CTA who keep breaking the families, harming the Tibetans and stopping the unity of Tibet, CTA is the one that betrayed Dalai Lama and destroying his work and his name, Dalai Lama spent his whole life spreading peace and harmony but CTA ruined it. But luckily many people realized this and I’m glad that the countries who are supporting CTA is pulling out and stop pumping money to them, then they will not use these money to create further harm towards Dorje Shugden practitioners and the Tibetans.

  26. Brian Little

    August 29, 2017 at 1:16 pm

    Could that signal there is a split within the cabinet itself?? Sikyong could have just said something but opted to keep quiet. Why would CTA wants to be seen as going against what His Holiness The Dalai Lama’s middle way approach towards Rangzen? I wonder why this talk was held in Paris while not other countries or even back in India? Is this supposed to be even behind private (well, certain degree) because of the poor turnout of press rep.

  27. Pema

    August 29, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    There are so many difficulties which Tibetans have to deal with. So now they don’t know if they should follow what the Dalai Lama said – Autonomy within Tibet! So why are there so many having a holiday in France and having controversial discussions?

    Isn’t this a shame? Since when do refugees travel to Paris for a weekend?

    In this time of crisis, where the Dalai Lama is not welcomed anymore to many countries and Tibetans are rejected from many countries, is this the right direction?

    Tibetans suffer, they self-immolate and 140 people gather in Paris. One is pain and one is pleasure – isn’t it? Why are these people not supporting the Tibetans in China? Why are they having fun while the majority of Tibetans does not have such a privilege?

    It is time to use the many donations that the CTA received and still receives for the Tibetans – for who the money was meant for in the first place!

  28. Richard LakTam

    August 29, 2017 at 3:15 pm

    Lobsang Sangay is playing dirty now, LOL. I thought they (Tibetan) listen to every single word The Dalai Lama said? But why this round didn’t? So, people practice Dorje Shugden is wrong, but member of Parliament went all the way to Paris to discuss about independent and go against The Dalai Lama’s middle way is correct? Lobsang Sangay allow that? Is it like that? Or…. Maybe Dalai Lama actually want it? He doesn’t want to be the one that say it this time, it is because he has already said he wanted the middle way, on the other hand, there’s actually another team who’s “fighting for independent” to show the west that they are doing their job, hope that the west will continue pumping them money. All these are just my assumption. But if Lobsang Sangay is again keeping quiet on this, that obviously shows that he’s playing dirty. LOL.

  29. Tenzin Sangye

    August 29, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    Interesting to get know about rangzen conference. Perhap people are attending this conference may be are the real people who wanted tibet inderpendance without other motive. Since tibet leadership and his exile goverment has claim that China are objection are supress them so much and not allow tibet inderpendance. If that attitude of blaming China is not change and unfriendly with China. With respect of Holiness the middle way to find inderpencence proposal with not work negotiate with China.

  30. Vajra10

    August 29, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    People seem to like gradually gaining back their empathy and they seem to do something better by themselves instead of waiting their body, CTA to take action and help all of them for a better living.

  31. Jing Jing

    August 29, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    Why CTA keep setting a goal that they cannot achieve. In what ground they can achieve rangzen? CTA against China today? Everyone in CTA holding foreign country passport but shout for Rangzen? Everyone in CTA keep taking the funds or donation from all over the world which is for helping the Tibetan to rebuild their community but into their own pockets, yet wanted Rangzen? It does not make sense at all.

    150 people set themselves your self-immolation because CTA shouted for Rangzen! It’s so clear that this is a trick, to generate more personal income for CTA. Income will stop when CTA starts making friend with China. Hence even the whole world know that going middle way is the only logical way and hope to go but they insisted for Rangzen. It’s time but Tibetan to think deeper.

  32. SabrinaS

    September 3, 2017 at 12:13 pm

    After reading some comments earlier, I find it funny that the table has been turned for some of the people attending this Rangzen conference. The Dalai Lama’s followers had been labelling the Shugden practitioners as Chinese agents, just because in continuing their protector practices, they are seen as against the Dalai Lama. As China was their no. 1 enemy, any association with China will automatically be made the enemy agents, inviting hatred, discrimination, segregation, etc. So when CTA label Shugden practitioners as Chinese agents, these practitioners had been targeted for hate activities. Now those attending this Rangzen conference are labelled as Chinese agents by the commentators, even CTA officials who attended. Its obvious that anyone against Dalai Lama’s wishes is to be labelled as a Chinese agent. Weird association!

    This article shows two glaring points to me. The first being that CTA officials attended this Rangzen conference publicly even though supposedly on private capacity, shows very clearly that CTA is very much against the Dalai Lama’s wish for ‘Autonomy’ or middle way approach. If CTA stands with the Dalai Lama, would any officials dare attend anything opposing? Especially when CTA has the history of coming down harshly on detractors.

    Second point being that CTA no longer sees the Dalai Lama as of much further use when they could disrespect his wishes so openly. With world leaders turning away from the Dalai Lama and refusing to meet him, CTA now no longer has a famous pawn to be used for their sponsorship campaign. Of course, CTA still uses the Dalai Lama as their excuse to control the common people, given that their loyalties are still very much with the Dalai Lama as their spiritual leader. Its scary the extent CTA will go to in using people and circumstances to fulfil their greediness, be it power or materialism.

    This Rangzen conference is of no utter use except for the 140 attendees to have that “feel good” effect and to enjoy their “holiday”. Who in the world will support them, given that it is so much more ludicrous to support China for trade and political gain?

    The Tibetans should really wake up to the reality that Dorje Shugden practitioners are never their enemies for wanting to have the freedom to practice their religious rights. The enemy is those that kept them in refugee status for their own gain.

  33. Anonymous

    September 6, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    Damtshe otherwise known as integrity is important…gradually it seems that tibetain sare losing their faith in their own head …there will be a communal issue sooner or later…therse sdays there is a news in tibetains are now accepted anywhere in the world and the vary reason is being shown by various MP who is not interested in autonomous demand against china….

  34. niranjan

    September 7, 2017 at 2:50 pm

    i fully support dali lama because he is a great leader knows a day we cannot find this type of leader in the world …absolutely he loved tibet than his life …i respct dali lama …wish u all the best ..i pray god ..u will be sucess very soon

  35. Lobsang Tsundue

    September 10, 2017 at 12:41 pm

    What I find interesting is Tethong Wangpo. He is a rich ex MP of the Tibetan government in exile. During his tenure he was able to meet many foreigners who help him to immigrate to Switzerland where he set up a few companies and he is very well to do in finances now. As a MP he got good connections to benefit himself it seems. We know that as a Tibetan living in Switzerland. Good for him I guess. But the issue is he attending this meeting as shown him to be against the Dalai Lama. Rangzen people are dangerous because they break the unity of Tibetans and they oppose the Dalai Lama’s middle way. How dare he oppose the Dalai Lama. He is brave. Rangzen people are considered worse than Dorje Shugden people according to ex PM Samdhong Rinpoche. In Tibetan society, there is no freedom, no religious freedom, no democracy and no free will. If you are seen to oppose the Dalai Lama, you will be segregated from other Tibetans. You will be shunned.

    Now Mr. Tethong and his rangzen group will know how Dorje Shugden people feel being segregated and hated just because of their choice of religion. NO religious freedom. NO democracy within the Tibetan exiled government in Dharamsala. NO freedom for Tibetans living in Tibetan communities throughout the world because you will be shunned and whispered about if you dare oppose the God King of Tibet and his government.

  36. Wangchuk

    September 10, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    Tibetans are not aligned on this at all: Middle Way or Rangzen? Personally there is no right or wrong, and only time can tell which is a better approach. In either case, I don’t see any progress in either approach. Right now, both are equally failing.

    Is there any hope for Tibetans in exile?

  37. Dan Bear

    September 10, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    When it come to the Dalai Lama and the CTA I am a big sceptic.

    The CTA politicians we have all known are always so careful not to be seen to be opposing the Dalai Lama’s stance on anything and here they are, gathering for a rangzen event. I did wonder if it is possible that these CTA members of parliament attended the conference with permission or even under instructions from the top echelons of Tibetan hierarchy?

    Can it be possible that the Dalai Lama and Lobsang Sangay are secretly fanning the flames of rangzen for a number of reasons?

    (i) Complete independence is actually their real political objective but can’t openly say it as they have committed to umaylam in public. So some like Juchen Konchok and Monlam Tharchin are being used to make sure the rangzen idea is kept alive;

    (ii) the CTA wants to keep the rangzen movement alive because as long as there is a tangible rangzen vs umalylam polarity, the Tibetan people will have something to fight over and be too disunited to take the Tibetan leadership to task for its failures;

    (iii) As long as there are still strong murmurings of rangzen, the Chinese government will not agree to dialogue and that’s precisely what the CTA wants – to remain in exile to milk the Tibetan Cause cow till its dry. Being refugees have been very lucrative to some people in the Tibetan leadership so why would they give it up?

    Having said all that, it may also be that the Dalai Lama’s influence is waning and after over 50 years of promises the Tibetan people are fed up. Just look at the articles in this site and you can see that the Tibetan cause has lost relevance and the Tibetans are being increasingly rejected by the world as the Tibetan people continue to tear itself apart over a number of issues all of which reek of the CTA’s manipulation. Even sites like Tibet Sun and Phayul are publishing views that are not totally complimentary to the CTA. You wouldn’t have seen this few years ago.

    It does seem like the beginning of a sad end for the CTA.

  38. Free Tibet Tenzin

    September 12, 2017 at 5:28 am

    How come these people and some is from Kashag in Dharamsala join the meeting on Rangzen in France which is against His Holiness Dalai Lama’s middle way?

    Rangzen people really is enemy of Tibetan people and Dalai Lama.

    Also they can all fly to France and enjoy while the common Tibetans in India have to sell sweaters on the dusty streets of Indian cities.

  39. Wangpo Tethong

    September 13, 2017 at 11:16 am

    Dear Webmaster

    I write to you regarding the opinion piece „Tibetan MP Juchen Konchok and friends oppose the Dalai Lama’s Middle Way.“ You published an article that contains a lot of wrong information regarding my lecture at the Paris Conference and I want you to delete my image and all passages referring to my person.

    My longtime friend Tenzin Tsundue la asked me to participate in this gathering. I offered him to do a presentation at the conference. He and the conference organizers were informed well in advance that I have my own and well-publicized political positions that differ from theirs (see below) and also do not intend to be part of their group.

    My topic was „Chinese Population Transfer to Tibet“. I was very happy to do this presentation about dramatic demographic challenges and new campaign opportunities. My presentation took place in the context of an international panel on the first day of the gathering and I am very glad for the very intensive interaction with our friends from Inner Mongolia and Eastern Turkestan who face similar issues. The second part of the conference was an internal meeting of the Rangzen Alliance that I did not attend.

    Please share with Carrole Mc’Quirre (Who is she? I have never met or seen her?) my explanations that could have been easily checked with the organizer or me. All her conclusions and speculations with regard to me are definetly baseless.

    She should first read this:

    Wangpo Tethong

  40. Jardon Namdrol

    September 14, 2017 at 4:51 am

    Dear respected Wangpo Tethong,

    One thing that puzzles us most is that, if you do not align with the Rangzen movement and group, then why even attend their conference at all? You know very well that by attending the conference and some more giving a presentation there, whatever they topic was, it will only look like you are part of the Rangzen group and movement. You not only attended, but you even presented there, so to others they are not going to know or differentiate who among the conference attendees were actually NOT aligning with the conference’s objective, that was simply bizarre.

    The Rangzen group and movement are clearly opposing the Dalai Lama’s view, the whole Tibetan community know that. To accept their invitation to attend, and even participated as one of the speakers, could only show that you are a supporter or sympathizer of the Rangzen movement. In either case, against the Dalai Lama’s advocate. This is how others will see it clearly. So I don’t know why you even bother to write in and defend yourself, perhaps you being warned, admonished and threatened by your ex-colleagues in the CTA?


  41. Tenzin Wangyal-ByLakuppe

    September 14, 2017 at 5:03 am

    @Wangpo Tethong,

    For sure Dharamsala’s CTA contacted you and warned you about this and now you are writing in to clarify. Our Tibetan govt in exile (CTA) watches this website very carefully as the news is accurate. CTA never tolerates any opinions against them. If you have something thinking against them, they will embarrass you, segregate you and make others hate you to punish you. That is how CTA works.

    The question is very simple. Why did you attend a meeting under the banner of rangzen in France? Don’t blame your friend Tenzin Tsundue who invite you to go. You can say NO to Tenzin Tsundu and not attend. You know rangzen is against the Dalai Lama’s middle way approach. You know that no Tibetans are allowed to go against the Dalai Lama as we do not have democracy and free speech in the genuine form. Dalai Lama is the king. So you should never attend a rangzen meeting. This is your mistake. Now everyone know you are against middle way of Dalai Lama. You are enemy of Tibet.

    Now you know how Shugden people feel. Just because they practice Shugden they are considered AGAINST Dalai Lama. Even they are not against Dalai Lama, they are labelled as such. That is how CTA operates to force you to follow only their way. Now Rangzen people is against middle way, so you are labelled against Dalai Lama. That is how CTA works. Congratulations! Rangzen people take money from China to go against Dalai Lama.

    The opinion piece here reported the rangzen meeting was posted in Phayul also. The information is exactly the same.

    You are a Tibetan with a swiss passport and you should be ashamed. All Tibetans in India are still with no passport. You have money and living well in Swiss and you forget about your people. You worked in CTA and that is how you got rich. Now you forget your people in India.

    You are against Dalai Lama’s middle way.

  42. Hate Shugden

    September 14, 2017 at 5:53 am

    Shugden people get money from China.
    Rangzen people get money from China.
    Jonangpa people get money from China.
    Anyone who don’t agree with Dalai Lama is against Tibet and paid by China! Dalai Lama is King of Tibet.

  43. Hate Rangzen people

    September 14, 2017 at 5:54 am

    Rangzen people get money from China.

    Anyone who don’t agree with Dalai Lama is against Tibet and paid by China! Dalai Lama is King of Tibet.

  44. samayakeeper

    September 14, 2017 at 5:54 am

    @Wangpo Tethong,

    This is exactly how Dorje Shugden people feel. They are labelled as anti Dalai Lama, falsely accused of being Chinese spies, blamed for the failure of CTA in winning back Tibet, condemned that their practice can shorten the life of the Dalai Lama, criticised and spat on. Tibetans fear being seen in the presence of Dorje Shugden practitioners lest they be called symphatizers and as seen to being against the Dalai Lama.

    You are now called a symphatizer of the rangzen movement because of your presence there, just like a Tibetan seen in the presence of a Dorje Shugden practitioner. You knew very well what the event was about and organised by which group. Yet you participated.

    If you had a long time friend who is a Dorje Shugden practitioner who invited you to lecture about business opportunities for Tibetans living outside India at a conference held in, say, Milan in Italy, would you attend? Of course you could, in advance, inform your long time friend of your spiritual stance but would still be happy to lecture. No? And of course, you would inform your long time friend that you would not be present in the second half of the conference where the agenda could be, say, ‘Plea to Dalai Lama to lift the ban.’

    As a seasoned ex politician you are used to being called whatever by people who did not agree with you. Why are you now so concerned of the comments here? Maybe your cronies in the CTA are on your case? You don’t have to justify to the world WHY you went. The fact is YOU WENT.

  45. We Love Tibet

    September 14, 2017 at 6:32 am

    We love Tibet and we want her free. But the Tibetan government in exile is segregating our people due to religion. Here in Germany today September 13, 2017 Tibetans are protesting against the Dalai Lama. Quite a few videos here:

  46. Sonam

    September 14, 2017 at 7:16 am

    @Wangpo Tethong

    Frankly speak its really surprise to see your justification here. What you say here is just like a new kids on the block but being a politican you should know better what you are in to. If you are not supporting Rangen why you even bothered to be there. You know well that your ‘friend’ Tenzin Tsundue which is a Rangen activist and you even offer to give speech/presentation which in the eye of public is directly supporting the movement. If you are not supporting aren’t you supposed to stay away from it be it for whatever reason.

    If you are so clean why are you so worry to be seen. You mentioned that you have informed you long time friend on your poitical position which is differ from theirs but have you inform CTA about your involvement in the conference? If you did you are cleaned right? Being a politician getting criticism is a norm and if you are clean why bothered?

  47. bambi

    September 14, 2017 at 10:20 am

    Dear Wangpo Tethong,

    Very interesting how you need to justify yourself just to tell the ‘truth’. It’s funny how DS practitioners also tell the truth and justify that we are NOT paid by China to support DS yet we are all blamed and put into the same situation that you are in. How does it feel like to be accused of something you didn’t do? Moreover, as an ex politician, you actually get ‘offended’ or disturbed so easily? Also show that the world, Tibetans, CTA , Pro HHDL people are watching this website to remind them of how incapable they are!

    Or maybe the CTA is upset with you attending the meeting so you need to justify and let them know you are not part of it? But I guess it doesn’t really matter for you because you are not in India like your other fellow Tibetans. You have a good life in Switzerland of which you got to migrate to when you made many ‘friends’ during your days serving CTA. And not to forget the current CTA members are also doing the same to get out of India!

    Why even need Rangzen, umaylam or whatever it is? Most of you will never go back to Tibet even if given the chance. You have a good life with loads of money in other parts of the world and you don’t need anything from China nor India.

  48. Dondrup Shugden

    September 14, 2017 at 11:43 am

    Dear Mr. Wangpo Tethong,

    Whatever your stand is, it is your action that speaks volumes. The fact is that you were at a conference discussing Rangzen is definitely against the Dalai Lama’s wish of a middle way with China.

    To write and justify your attendance will no way exempt you from being classified as being anti Dalai Lama.

    Why do you even bother to be part of the Tibetan circle as you are already now a Swiss, do you ever intend to return to Tibet in China?

    Being an ex CTA member and still being in the circle of sabotaging the Dalai Lama’s intention of the “middle way” can only mean you are still aligned with them. You must be very well respected to be giving a presentation at this conference.

    Was is the gratitude for attending and making a presentation?

  49. Drolkar Choephel

    September 14, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Mr Wangpo Tethong,

    You are not new in politics and familiar with how CTA is operating. When you agreed to attend and be one of the speaker to the Rangoon International Conference, you should know better, your political stand on Tibet is tied together with Rangzen – you are Rangoon supporter, activist or sympathiser. After so much media reported on you spoke on the conference, with your photo published, now you wish to clarify you are actually never support Rangzen, you are a die hard supporter of Middle Way. Do you think how many will believe in you? You are not first day in politics. Would you go to the street in Germany to protest and saying His Holiness is lying and later come back and clarifying that you are actually passed by the street and was invited by a friend to join in the event, and you are innocent. And you actually love His Holiness so much and you were misled by your friend?

    You either:
    1) Too ignorant, never think about the consequences of turning your back to CTA and CTA will let you go scout free. But you have been long in politics and old enough to know the fact.
    2) You are trying to market yourself as the Tibetan activist who fight for Tibetans, by supporting Rangzen which is supported by majority of the Tibetans. You want to be the hero of we Tibetans. But this turns out bad. You trying hard to be the hero to get international acknowledgement and good reputation as activist. However after the conference, suddenly someone came and gave warning to you, and you were enlightened that you actually can gain more from CTA, by retreating your stand as a supporter of Rangoon; thus you clarified your stand. Your clarified because you or your friends in CTA let you know about how media, and this opinion piece especially has make CTA looks bad and how have read about this.
    3) You know so well what possible things would happen to you as to all who do not listen to CTA. To be labelled as “traitor” and anti-Dalai Lama is something have happened to all dissidents like Lukar Jam and Dorje Shugden people – even they never against His Holiness.
    4) The price to pay to be labelled as traitor and the consequences is too high to pay, compare to your reward of marketing campaign as international activist and hero of Tibet/Tibetans. May be not many Westerners and Tibetans will know about how your stand on Tibet swayed; or how actually you are using Tibet cause and hundred thousand of Tibetans as your prey to get fame, support and probably fund to your so called activist activities or research or funding to attend any international conference around the world.
    5) Truth will be revealed. We Tibetans are betrayed by Tibetan leaders like you and others in CTA, stop using China or Beijing government to cover your hypocrisy and how all you leaders gaining fame and fund. Enough is enough.

  50. Solomon Lang

    September 14, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    Dear Wangpo Tethong,

    Aren’t you the same person who apparently took years to plan a publicity stunt in the heart of Beijing in the run-up to the Beijing Olympics? You even made a video of it:

    I must congratulate you – you have guts.

    But why are you now not willing to acknowledge that you are for Rangzen or Independence? See the banner you heroically unfurled in Beijing? It says FreeTIbet.Org

    This is FreeTibet.Org:


    Our vision is a free Tibet in which Tibetans are able to determine their own future and the human rights of all are respected.

    We campaign for an end to China’s occupation of Tibet and for international recognition of Tibetans’ right to freedom.

    We mobilise active support for the Tibetan cause, champion human rights and challenge those whose actions sustain the occupation.

    This is His Holiness Dalai Lama’s Middle Way:

    Big difference. Why are you so shy to admit that you are for Rangzen. You should be wearing a shirt with a big “RANGZEN” printed on it. Be brave, stay true to your words.

  51. SabrinaS

    September 14, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    Its really surprising that a seasoned ex-CTA member Wangpo Tethong would feel the need to clarify and justify his presence at the meeting. If he was not guilty then why bother explaining. I must say the is indeed a powerful and well read blogsite that brings the truth to the people. I personally think that whether invited to speak or not, by attending and what more to give his talk shows strongly he support the Rangzen movement as he felt no wrong being there. It is only when made public this conference that he realise he had become enemy of Tibet as Rangzen is against Dalai Lama’s autonomy wishes. As a business man, he should really promote Dalai Lama’s wishes as China can accord him with much.

    Another point being that I wonder if CTA is falling apart since the officials dare so openly attend this meeting. Unless CTA itself supports this meeting, these officials would be going against the wishes of Dalai Lama with much disrespect. So are they really agents of China to harvest discord amongst CTA? Actually I really don’t think China even bothers as she is already a giant in world stature and have no need for this pettiness. CTA themselves are sneaky and underhanded in fulfilling their own greed, so most likely its fractions of discord is from within. One can’t help but see the effects of Karma coming to bite. The pain and sufferings that CTA had created for the Dorje Shugden practitioners with the ban is now manifesting within CTA itself. Soon CTA will disappear in a Poof when India implements compulsory citizenship.

    As for Wangpo Tethong, you can’t undo your intended actions with a weak excuse of clarification. You are an experienced ex-member of CTA. You would know better than “Oh I had already clarified my position before the conference” but went ahead to support movement with your presentation. Your presentation in itself is Rangzen motivated when you are pressing your point in on the fact of demographic shift in Chinese being relocated to popularise Tibet, Mongolia, etc. What better way to put the fear in the people to support Rangzen? Sneaky.

  52. Ngawangwang

    September 15, 2017 at 5:40 am

    Dear Wangpo Teethong, please stand up for Rangzen, please be firm. Now it’s the time to let Rangzen people know they are not alone. You are no more with CTA, you are free to express your political views and stands. That’s your human rights.

    Please ignore all the comments and be your own hero and the hero of Tibetans. Why other CTA members are free to go wherever they want and express whatever political opinions as they like, but former MP cannot? Lay people like all of us cannot? Why must we all follow what our leaders say and they never consult our views before making any important decisions? They don’t even care how’s our lives now? What we hope for our future and our children? How eager we wish to go back to our land? They care only for their own pocket and luxury lives. That’s not what a leader should be doing. You must show the good example, with no fear, stand firm. Thank you.

  53. Pema Norbu

    September 15, 2017 at 8:09 am

    See for yourself a clear video of His Holiness the Dalai Lama asking the monasteries to expel monks that practice Dorje Shugden. Watch here:

  54. Thupten Jamyang

    September 15, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Wangpo Tethong is definitely paid by the CCP. See here he is meeting a traitor in Beijing, an ex-Tibetan minister who played an important role in signing Tibet away to China in 1951. This man, Ngapoi Ngawang Jigme later became a member of CCP and a high ranking Chinese official.

    When His Holiness the Dalai Lama is working hard to get autonomy through Middle Way, asking many countries to help Tibet, this is what CCP-paid Rangzen traitors are doing. Shame!

  55. Hate Shugden

    September 16, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    We hate Shugden
    We hate Dalai Lama’s middle way
    We love our all expense paid trip and holiday to France for our Rangzen meeting
    Rangzen people will never agree with Dalai Lama’s middle way

  56. Hate Shugden

    September 16, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    We hate Shugden
    We hate Dalai Lama’s middle way
    We love our all expense paid trip and holiday to France for our Rangzen meeting
    Rangzen people will never agree with Dalai Lama’s middle way

  57. christine victor

    September 17, 2017 at 10:51 am

    A Conference with 140 peoples attended, without reporters , and it is about Freedom of Tibetan was not held in Dharamsala but in Paris. With all this Tibetan going to Paris, discuss about freedom while their fellow Tibetan Refugees are so poor struggling in India, I wonder what is these peoples intention? To avoid from H.H Dalai Lama or to avoid their own people or to show to the world that they are independent entity that bravely object H.H Dalai Lama middle way approach to Tibet’s issues.

    Beside, if they are truly so grateful to the Tibetan who have sacrifice themselves; beside having luxury meeting in Paris, what have they done to the family of the victim? Any compensation?

    More surprise to me is that Wangpo Tethong could write in to to request delete this article which report about his attendance to Rangzen. I thought those oppose Dorje Shugden would not even read what is wrote in the web. Looking at they treated whatever related to Dorje Shugden is illegal. The act Wangpo Tethong wrote in, it seem that the anti Dorje Shugden’s people are always looking at this web. Why did you all bother to read the articles in this web? Because, you all know that the articles in this web brought many truth and could reveal to Tibetan in overseas about what exactly you all have done. On surface support H. H. Dalai Lama to ban Dorje Shugden, but bottom you all are actually opposed on H.H Dalai Lama. It is so clear that recently H.H Dalai Lama have said people could practice Dorje Shugden instead to help in unite Tibetan Refugees, CTA continue even more aggressively to spread the propaganda about Dorje Shugden, continue to create disharmony amongst the Tibetan Refugees. It is so obvious it goes against the policy of H.H Dalai Lama. True color of CTA is begin to shown up.

  58. Manjushri

    September 17, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    Rangzen way is supporting self immolation. They support people to sacrifice their bodies because they/ the CTA cannot do anything to get Tibet back, so people use their bodies as sacrifice. If they were effective in any way at all, then this method for Free Tibet would not need to happen at all.

    They have had 4 Rangzen conferences, but there is no results from the conference. Dalai Lama said to use the Middle way, but these group of people choose to oppose Dalai Lama. I am sure they are against Shugden practitioners too, so why are they selective in listening to the Dalai Lama’s advice? Through their action, they are proving that the Dalai Lama is wrong and ineffective in other words. Where to they get the finances to fly everyone to one place to hold a conference? If they get from CTA, that means, the CTA is also opposing the Dalai Lama in this regard? Because some of the attendees are MPs of the CTA, it shows that some are against Dalai Lama.

    Wangpo Tethong wrote here to justify himself. If he did nothing wrong, why worry, justify and explain?

  59. Anonymous

    September 20, 2017 at 7:25 pm

  60. CTA must close down

    September 22, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    😕 The CTA in Dharamsala must close down as soon as possible. They have no benefit to their own people or the people of India.

  61. Chokyi USA

    September 23, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    Hello everyone, specially to our CTA Taxi union president Lobsang Sangay and his beneficiary Kashag members and followers,
    I am Chokyi I worked in Exile government 15 years. When Lobsang Sangay came to Dharamsala leadership I researched 2 years through what I have seen and what I listened from him personally. Lobsang have no personal skill and capability to solve the issues of Tibetans in India. He have only a paper degree from Harvard that’s called R….R….R, which means big talk in Tibetan. I feel so much pity on those uneducated Tibetans who set themselves on fire and burned their bodies. Each self-immolation brought a huge benefit to CTA financially. After every self-immolation Lobsang Sangay and his Kashag members have tour programs under the name of Tibetan political issues to introduce to western countries. Mostly, they travel first/business class. But, once they reached destination Lobsang Sangay asked donations to CTA. This is Sangay’s no 1 capability to ask donors in the name of self- immolation. So, I have known much better what Sangay real doing. That’s why I resigned from my post and living independently in US now. Here I humble request to all ordinary Tibetan people in exile. Plz go to apply for western or Indian citizenship as soon as possible. This is only way how you and your children survive a better life. Don’t listen CTA leaders big talks. Because, when you don’t have money to pay your children’s school fees. CTA can’t help you. When your father got serious sickness CTA can’t help you. When your mother died CTA can’t help you. But, CTA will use you for donations in name of seeking help for Tibetans. That donations they will corrupt at the end. Therefore, do something for yourself. Don’t let others use you. This is real experience that I got from CTA in 15 years working from down to earth. Don’t waste your life in CTA’s misuses.

  62. The truth

    September 24, 2017 at 1:08 am


    It is absolutely true what you say about CTA Taxi union president Lobsang Sangay and his beneficiary Kashag members and followers. They only want money, money and more money. They do nothing for the Tibetan people. Until now Lobsang Sangay has arranged no talks with China regarding our Tibetan situation. That is why we want to overturn Sangay and his ‘democratic’ minions. They should retire and go live in their rich mansions. We want full rangzen and we want a new Tibetan exiled government with people that will do something and care.

  63. Agatha

    September 24, 2017 at 4:36 am

    Again and again Rangzen people are opposing HH Dalai Lama! They are against the Dalai Lama’s Middle Way and paid by China! Rangzen people are all fake!

  64. Lophun from Delhi

    September 24, 2017 at 7:22 am

  65. Lophun from Delhi

    September 24, 2017 at 7:24 am

    Anti-Dalai Lama and anti-Tibetan traitors in Paris. What is Lobsang Sangye going to do about this?

  66. Tashi Dolma

    September 24, 2017 at 9:21 am

    Since he took office, Lobsang Sangay has failed to secure any talk with China to advance the middle way he claims to support. Are you for real Lobsang Sangay or are you paid by China?😠

  67. Tsering

    September 24, 2017 at 9:24 am

    Since Lobsang Sangay is a failure – no wonder his MPs are not supporting him and go to the rangzen side.

  68. Palden

    September 24, 2017 at 9:26 am

    Lobsang Sangay is a failure who had lost control over his own administration

  69. Gyaltsen from USA

    September 24, 2017 at 9:30 am

    These MPs, Juchen Konchok, Monlam Tharchin etc are definitely paid by China to go against the Dalai Lama’s middle way – Shame on you!!!

  70. Sonam Rinchen

    September 24, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    @Wangpo Tethong or better known as Tethong Tenzin Wangpo

    Remember the day where you took the oath from Penpa Tsering on 6 May 2014 and sworn-in as a member of the 15th Tibetan Parliament-in-Exile from Europe at a brief swearing-in ceremony held at the Tibetan Parliament? You were lucky to be designated as the member of parliament because Chungdak Koren resigned on health grounds. You were given a rare opportunity to fight for the Tibetans’ rights and to actualise His Holiness’ Middle Way approach.

    In return, you joined the rangzen anti His Holiness the Dalai Lama group by going against his approach, the best way for the Tibetans moving forward. You received your Swiss passport and all the perks that make you wealthy due to His Holiness’ kindness. You have proven to be a non-grateful person and another one who sold our country for your own benefits. Yet, you have the balls to comment here and ask the admin to delete all truth about you?

    You are really stupid and should be ashamed of your actions and for going against His Holiness’ Middle Way. Go on and continue to be another anti Dalai Lama coward that sell Tibet away for your own wealth and security. You are disgusting!


  71. Dorje Tseten

    September 25, 2017 at 1:14 am

    Lobsang Sengge travels so much to raise funds but Tibetans never see any of it. Visit our settlements and see how our people live. The poverty is not charming. The poverty is suffering.

    So many problems in our society but we never see Lobsang Sengge solving any of them. Only see him attending openings, giving speeches, traveling to America, shaking people’s hands. What’s he doing, raising funds to go on holiday with Dhardon Sharling?

  72. Camillia

    September 25, 2017 at 5:27 am

    The Dalai Lama clearly says he wants the Middle-way and not full independence for Tibet (Rangzen). This manifesto had been clearly communicated to the authorities and people. However, 140 people came together outside of the settlement of Tibetan in exile, discussed and plotted about full independence (Rangzen) for Tibet.

    140 is a big group coming from a small 100,000 community. What more, some of these 140 people are currently holding positions in the CTA, which is the leadership of the Tibetan in exile community. Meaning to say, these leaders and Tibetans are plotting against Dalai Lama and the government /leadership of Tibetan in exile.

    Is this not a threat to national (community) security? And shouldn’t the ones who are holding official positions be interrogated for their intention in disturbing the peace and harmony of the community? To the very least, they should be suspended so that their conflict of interest will not be further pose threat to the community.

    This is a serious matter, yet, there is no follow-up from Dharamsala or CTA. Are they in cohort too?

    The biggest conspiracy of the 21st century?

  73. Tharchin

    September 25, 2017 at 11:23 am

    You are all anti Dalai Lama. How shameful to go against HH’s Middle Way.

  74. Tsundue J.

    September 25, 2017 at 12:23 pm

    You see, even MP and former MP are speaking up and dare to speak their mind and stand up for the people. Why they no support to CTA leaders? Why oppose openly? People will not oppose without reasons, must be CTA is corrupted to the core and needs someone and many to come out and stop all these nonsense, including to ban of Dorje Shugden practice, to encourage self-immolations, to silence the dissidents with violence…

    CTA please steps down and let the people who care for people rules. We all have enough

  75. Tashi Ngodup

    September 25, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    More Tibetans are discovering the fact that even the CTA members are against Gyalwa Rimpoche, Wangpo Tethong is just one example. It’s obvious that the CTA members do not care about Gyalwa Rimpoche, all they want is more money. Us Tibetans will stop supporting the traitors working in CTA, why continue to support CTA and hurt Gyalwa Rimpoche?

  76. Pete Stevens

    September 25, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Wow… one of my friends directed me to this article and I must say that reading the article and especially the comments has been an eye-opener for us who live in the Western countries that do not understand the Tibetan politics well. I too work for the government and have personally been donating to the Tibetan refugees in hope that they will live a better life. It’s extremely despicable of the Tibetan leaders to raise funds in the name of the poor Tibetans and free Tibet, but they end up keeping the money to themselves. Attention must be brought to this matter so our people here do not continue to spend money on a ’cause’ that does not exist.

  77. dorje

    September 25, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    CTA leaders keep all money in pocket. think CTA will change and generous when CTA rule Tibet in China???? 👎👎

  78. jamyang

    September 25, 2017 at 11:19 pm

    tashi delek.. this is real. Tibetan politician want to save their ass.
    news show the truth.

  79. J. Ushri

    September 25, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    CTA has been condemning DS practitioners as being anti-Dalai Lama for choosing to exercise their right to practice a religion of their choice. But look what some of CTA’s cabinet ministers are doing… attending a Rangzen conference. Isn’t Rangzen the opposite of what His Holiness is working towards ie Umaylam? Look who is anti-Dalai Lama now.

    This article clearly shows that even CTA’s own MP Juchen Konchok does not support her own leadership, how will CTA be able to regain Tibet?

  80. Anonymous

    September 25, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    Cta no interest to get back Tibet in china. Cta is rich. they have money and house outside of india, can live nicely.🙁🙁

  81. Tashi Dolma

    September 26, 2017 at 4:51 am

    Lobsang Sangay people are being paid by China to attack the Dalai Lama

  82. Gyaltsen

    September 26, 2017 at 4:54 am

    Lobsang Sangay’s people are the real traitor of the Tibetan cause

  83. Palden la

    September 26, 2017 at 5:07 am

    Rangzen people are paid by China to attack the Dalai Lama

  84. Danny Short

    September 26, 2017 at 8:02 am

    These people ganging up against Dalai Lama but Central Tibetan Government kept quiet and allowed it. Why?

  85. Doreen Park

    September 26, 2017 at 9:38 am

    What sticks out like a sore thumb is that present at this 4th International Conference in Paris,France, are several MPs of the parliament of the Tibetan Government in Exile! Despite vehement denial by MP Juchen Kunchok, by being here and supporting Rangzen, they are directly opposing HH the Dalai Lama’s Middle Way or Autonomy for Tibet from China.Supporting Rangzen behind HH the Dalai Lama’s back?

    If they can oppose HH Dalai Lama’s Middle Way,why can’t they also oppose a more illogical ban against Shugden practice.? This selectivity is questionable.It’s all very politically motivated.

    They talk about the self immolations in support of Rangzen.But why can’t they see the futility of these deaths – wasted precious lives that in reality are not advancing the Rangzen cause at all. Again, perhaps they know, but it is more likely to gain them big “donations” and “sponsors” to support the self-immolations and Rangzen!

  86. Pema Y

    September 26, 2017 at 10:29 am

    Seriously, Rangzen or Middle way, whatever it is, Tibetans, please wake up, it’s been 60 years, do u think we can still get back our so-called country and be independent? Come on, it’s just a “country” a label only, we tibetans should not fight among each other, ban this and that, make our own lives difficult, make each other hate each other, just for RAngzen? or for our stupid president? Lobsang Sangye and his stupid admin people are sucker for money, sorry for my rudeness. I have suffered enough and so do my fellow tibetans in the settlement.

    Please please please, pls do not make so much trouble just to line your pocket, CTA! realize how Karma works and you really will be scared if you could fast forward your life and see how karma takes over everything.

  87. Artisena

    September 26, 2017 at 10:40 am

    Im sorry to say, Tibetans like social gathering, talk big, show off and i guess the Rangzen conference in Paris, is another big social party for everyone who can afford to attend? wrong purpose, wrong gathering, wrong people. A gathering that oppose their leader’s view, turning their back to the leader and governtment body, what’s so proud? A conference with no effect and result, waste of resources, time and money. Save these things for your kids’ education and raise them well better lah, Tibet’s future relies on the young generation and not you guys!! 👎

  88. Tsering Tenpa

    September 26, 2017 at 11:38 am

    What? CTA is going against His Holiness’s middle way approach!! What a shame!
    Lobsang Sangay is a failure! 😠😠

  89. Tsering

    September 27, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    I did not know before that there are a lot of traitors within the CTA – why should we keep our loyalty to them? Better be Indian citizen

  90. Tashi

    September 27, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    I am tired of this dirty and hypocrite politicians

  91. Gyaltsen

    September 27, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    Shame on you Lobsang Sangay? You cannot even control your own staff Mr. President

  92. Ludwig

    September 27, 2017 at 10:20 pm

    From my understanding Dalai Lama wants umaylam. So rangzen people are acting against Dalai Lama and breaking up Tibetan unity. So members of parliament are organising people to gather and plan agains the Dalai Lama. This is most bad, Tibetan people must tell them many times that this is wrong to be against Dalai Lama who is most kind and holy 👎👎👎👎👎👎

  93. Gayathri

    September 27, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    Tibetans have no self-sacrificing people in their leadership. Gandhiji won India for us because he loved us and he loved his country more than he loved himself. When the Tibetans are led by a Parliament of selfish fools, no wonder they will never be independent and will always remain beggars. Now they have degenerated to acting against the Dalai Lama. Without Dalai’s blessings there will be no Tibet.

  94. Dondrup Shugden

    September 28, 2017 at 2:25 am

    Lobsang Sangya and CTA don’t be traitors and betray the Dalai Lama anymore. He is already 80 years old. Don’t destroy His reputation.😰😨

  95. DS survivor

    September 28, 2017 at 5:48 am

    CTA is very,very,very selfish!! CTA only want 💰😰😜👎. The eyes are covered with 🤑🤑. Shame!😡

  96. Anonymous

    September 28, 2017 at 6:05 am

  97. Jangchub

    September 30, 2017 at 1:13 am

    I can’t believe that there so many traitors within the CTA. They pretended to be loyal to the Dalai Lama, but in reality – they are stabbing him from the back – coward!

  98. Tsundue

    September 30, 2017 at 1:17 am

    These CCP paid spies (i.e., Juchen Konchok Tsering, Tethong Wangpo, Monlam Tharchin, Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar) are hypocrites

  99. Namgyal Wangchuk

    September 30, 2017 at 1:24 am

    Amazing! the Dalai Lama is surrounded by traitors and double dealers. One of the proofs that rangzen activists are CCP paid spies are they are against the Dalai Lama

  100. Kunsang from Switzerland

    September 30, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    Very sad the only REAL leader the Tibetans produced in the last sixty years is Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama is eight-two and how many more years can he “lead” his people in exile and never getting his country back????

    Dalai Lama’s policy for Tibet in making friends with western powers and criticizing China is not working out. How do we know? It has been 60 years since Tibetans have been refugees and they still remain ‘refugees’ depending on handouts and free aid and free money. Pathetic.

    Losang Sangye is a big degree holder and his degree is not worth the paper it’s printed on. He can do nothing and has done nothing except become ‘close’ friend with Sharling Dhardon. Their ‘closeness’ is the talk of all Dharamsala.

    Losang Sangye and any ‘leader’ will not have real power but simply the puppets of the all powerful god king Dalai Lama who is the real power behind the throne.

  101. Tokyo Dalai Lama watcher

    September 30, 2017 at 1:33 pm

    If it was not for Buddhism, no one would listen to the Dalai Lama!! The Dalai Lama gives the Kalacakra, gives self help speeches, sermons, prayers, rituals and wears the maroon dress to vast crowds. The maroon dress he wears is really a good marketing method although it is not meant to be. All these Buddhist events is what gathers the crowd to Dalai Lama. If you look at the Dalai Lama himself, besides being a smiley, shrewd and intelligent person, what does he have to attract people? Removing all from him that is Buddhist, what does the Dalai Lama have that is different than any other groups or deposed leaders that the world does not listen to. Dalai Lama owes all this to Buddhism. Therefore he should make harmony within the Buddhist community. How he is segregating certain sects with his rhetoric is dangerous. He is expelling people here clearly due to only a difference in religion: I was personally shocked to see this. I have met some Tibetan government leaders in Tokyo and privately they told me, they were also shocked that the Dalai Lama would say this and none of them dare advise him otherwise. They felt after Dalai Lama’s expulsion of people and in such a angry manner, it will not bode well in the future within Tibetan Buddhism which is the basis of his power. You can see in the video how angry the Dalai Lama seems to be. The Tibetan government persons in Japan also mentioned that the Dalai Lama listened to his oracle Nechung’s advice to ban this sect within Buddhism. Dalai Lama relies heavily on this Nechung god taking trance (oracle) for all his moves. Nechung is even summoned in the Dalai Lama’s private quarters to give prophecies:-

    It bewilders his followers why Dalai Lama relies so heavily on Nechung when he is suppose to be an avatar of a god Avalokita himself. Nechung is invited to most of his public events to do his dance and prophecies. Many Tibetans such as MP Tenpa Yarphel are not happy and speaking up finally: and . The over-reliance on Nechung demeans the Dalai Lama they feel and makes their government backwards. No modern governments consult gods and oracles for every move and if they do, they should not show this publicly. This is not a case of transparency but the Dalai Lama has not trained good advisers skilled in world politics by his side obviously to advise him and uses a god instead. Till now Nechung after 60 years has not proven correct. Nechung has not secured Tibet back. It was in fact in 2012 that Nechung told his monk Dorje Dalai Lama will go back to Tibet very soon, but it has not happened. Dorje is so ecstatic of this Nechung prophecy: . The prophecy proved to be wrong again by Nechung unfortunately for Dorje and the rest of the hopefuls.

    Losang Sangay is too busy with Sharling Dhardon and this is well known among the Tibetans. Without the Dalai Lama backing him up or promoting him, he is nothing and no one will listen to him. That is why everyone in the ‘Tibetan government’ are careful not to offend or displease the Dalai Lama who is the real power behind the throne. If you displease the king, you will be removed from the limelight and that means no more access to money, perks and foreigners who will give you money. Losang Sangay has made zero progress with talks with China since he ‘took office’. Whatever office that is. This shows his priority is not the Tibetans inside and outside of Tibet but to fill his own pockets before the King passes. Basically milk the cow while he can. Sad but that is the situation.

    I posted this ‘pictograph’ here of Sharling and Lobsang floating on the internet when you google. Interesting. I guess the Tibetans are not happy with Lobsang Sangay and Sharling who is really outspoken to her own detriment!

  102. Tsering Gonkatsang

    September 30, 2017 at 3:30 pm

    Member of Parliament Tenpa Yarphel is a hero. He is speaking up for free speech and freedom of expression. He is exercising his rights, he is standing up for logical democracy which is the only way forward and not having to contact spirits like Nechung via oracles to make decisions that impact people’s lives. But look how people speak about him in the comments, so rude and nasty. It really represents the Dalai Lama badly as they are supporting Dalai Lama beings so rude:

    They say we need to believe in Nechung and follow what he says. But in 2009 Nechung said the Dalai Lama would go back to Tibet and that everyone would be happy. A monk from Nechung Monastery is the one that told everyone about this: But Nechung was wrong. It has been eight years and this has not happened. The Dalai Lama did not return to Tibet. Nechung being consulted by Tibetan government in exile is backwards. No governments do this in the civilized world.

    When people like Tenpa Yarphel speak up and are real patriots of the Tibetan people, they are attacked by other people. In fact people even protest like this man who shaves his hair: People like these are actually protesting against Tenpa Yarphel’s democratic rights and freedom of speech. Tibetans by criticizing Tenpa Yarphel shows they are far from democracy. Besides many of the other Kagyu leaders such as Drigung Chetsang Rinpoche, Drukchen Rinpoche, Karmapa Thaye Dorje all did not say anything against Tenpa Yarphel that represents the Kagyus.

    Dalai Lama had said that is his minister of cabinet in the government. Even though it is clear that Nechung is unreliable and a spirit, the Dalai Lama continues to rely heavily on Nechung and other oracles who take trance of spirits. He invites Nechung to all his events and allow him to take trance in centre stage always. In fact the Dalai Lama even calls the oracles to his own private bedroom:

    These practices show how Tibetan government is run.

  103. We Love Tibet

    September 30, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    We hate Shugden too
    We hate Dalai Lama’s middle way too
    We love our all expense paid trip and holiday to France for our Rangzen meeting very much
    Rangzen people will never agree with Dalai Lama’s middle way because we don’t like middle way

  104. We Love Tibet

    September 30, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    We hate Shugden too just like you
    We hate Dalai Lama’s middle way too just like you
    We love our all expense paid trip and holiday to France for our Rangzen meeting very much and want to do it again
    Rangzen people will never agree with Dalai Lama’s middle way because we don’t like middle way because it’s wrong

  105. Sharling Tara

    October 1, 2017 at 2:43 pm

    The Dalai Lama is so old and he can pass anytime. Beijing is waiting for that. Beijing has full control of Tibet and nothing to fear. Dalai Lama and his government negotiates with Beijing or not does not matter. It’s a small matter in fact. Tibet will never have another King so powerful like Dalai Lama and so influential.

    Actually if Lobsang Sangye was smart, he would do his best to negotiate with China for a better deal for autonomy for Tibet while Dalai Lama is alive. With Dalai Lama alive, he will have more weight and backing. So why doesn’t Lobsang Sangye do so? The reason why Lobsang Sangye does not work hard to negotiate with China is because he does not care about the people. If the Dalai Lama dies, he is rich with big houses and he just moves on. He is in his position for the perks and wealth and US Passport which he has now. So why should he worry???


  106. Swiss Tibetan Rangzen

    October 1, 2017 at 3:15 pm

    Sharling Dhardon is rich and carries expensive hand bags while her ‘refugee’ Tibetans sell sweaters on the hot Indian streets.

  107. Swiss Tibetan Rangzen

    October 1, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    Sharling Dhardon and Lobsang Sangay are always together. Very close. They launched the book against Dorje Shugden practice together. Together they can authorized the spending of thousands of US dollars for commissioning a book against Dorje Shugden to further isolate and segregate the Tibetans who continue with their faith in Dorje Shugden. They do this to please the Dalai Lama so their money-making posts will be secure. They only want money.

    After the launching of the book against Dorje Shugden practitioners, they went down to Delhi to be at an expensive hotel and delicious five star dinner to enjoy their victory together.😘

  108. Tenzin Palljor

    October 1, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    These three MPs from Dharamsala is well known to get money from China to be part of Tibetan exile government and make trouble for Tibetans. They pretend to be close to Dalai Lama but they are close to China. They are in all Parliament meetings. People in Tibetan government work for their own financial welfare.

  109. Phayul commentator

    October 2, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is an MP of the CTA and she should immediatly resign and give honor to the disonorable CTA or Central Tibetan Administration in Dharamsala. She is an elected official. She should not fight with the tourists and spectators. If she is going to post things about Tibet, she has accept there will be people who do not accept what she is posting and be ready for opposition but not using violence. If the spectator gets violent, then Ms. Lhagyari should immediately go to the police and run from the scene. The police station is very nearby. Do not stand around and have violent interaction with people walking by. It does not look good as an MP of the Tibetan government in exile under the Dalai Lama. MP Ms. Lhagyari Namgyal Dolkar is a disgrace and should resign.👎


  110. Middle Way supporter

    October 2, 2017 at 3:17 pm

    Tibetan parliament MP Ms Lhagyari Namgyal Drolkar always making trouble? She should resign immediately if she has any honour.

  111. Tenzin Wangyal-ByLakuppe

    October 2, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    😖This Ms Lhagyari Namgyal Drolkar is against our Holineess the Dalia Lama. All Tibetsans is knowing this fact. She should quiet and quit. She should just be quiet and not make trouble.

  112. Lobsang Tsundue

    October 2, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    🇨🇳🤑Tibetan parliament MP Ms Lhagyari Namgyal Drolkar is definitely taking money from China.

    She only show support to Parliament but she is not really support. 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

  113. Christophe B

    October 2, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    What’s wrong if Lhagyari Drolkar supports Rangzen and Tibetan independence? Do you think Tibetans will have a good life under the CCP of China?

    How many years we the injis have been paying and supporting Tibetan cause, giving residence, fighting for Free Tibet? Until today, we are still giving money from our pockets. The Tibetans do nothing to appreciate our help, take our donation and now they want autonomy and go back to China with this Middle Way.

    Now you say Rangzen (independence) activists are “a bit more dangerous than the Chinese Communists or the Dhogyal practitioners”.

  114. Jamyang Delhi

    October 11, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    Dalai Lama does not want independence for Tibet and Rangzen-fighting Tibetans are going against the Dalai Lama. These Rangzen-fighting Tibetans are hardcore separatists and most likely taking Chinese money to create schism.

    The attached Times of India article is very clear what the Dalai Lama wants. Rangzen Tibetans and activists are 100% against Dalai Lama and Tibetan nation.

  115. Tashi Delhi

    October 11, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Dalai Lama does not want independence for Tibet but autonomy. All Rangzen-fighting Tibetans are going against the Dalai Lama. They are hardcore separatists and most likely taking Chinese money to create schism. See the attached Times of India article, its very clear what the Dalai Lama wants. Rangzen Tibetans and activists are 100% against Dalai Lama and Tibetan nation.

  116. Bylakuppe C

    October 11, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    Read the comment attached from Youtube video, see how Tibetans are ungrateful, greedy and nasty. The Indians are angry and have a right to be angry after hosting the Tibetans for 60 years. Yet instead of being grateful, they lash back. Even calling the Indian students “COMMUNIST CHINA PAID DOGS” and other vulgarities. Very racist. Anything Tibetans don’t like, they call you a China spy or China money eating agent. Even the Indian nationals now are berated as China dogs. No wonder Indians are protesting for Tibetans to go back! This is happening while the Dalai Lama is alive for after he passes, it will completely degenerate and the Indians will take action and expel the ungrateful refugees.

  117. Tenzin Peljor

    October 12, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    Tibetans use India and clearly the Tibetans don’t respect India. They are also very racist. Indians are tired of this and want them out. Now big protests in the hundreds are happening in Arunachal Pradesh state of India demanding Tibetans go back to Tibet. The people there are tired of the Tibetans and do not welcome them anymore. After 60 years, why are the Tibetans still refugees? If they can go western country, they will go because India is NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE USERS. They put India down by doing this. They only stay in India if they cannot go to another country. They never get Indian citizenship because they want foreign citizenship. Shame. In India, they never pay taxes. They never join army to defend India. They never build hospitals, half way houses, orphanages or get money from foreign aid to help India. They never build anything for Indians and we have so many poor Indians in India. Look at the foreigner Mother Teresa how much she did for India and she did so much for Indians in Calcutta but Tibetans do nothing. Not a charitable race. Their Dalai Lama never set up orphanages, schools, soup kitchens for the poor or set up scholarship for Indians. He lived in India for 60 years and give nothing back but take and use Indian land. The Tibetans lived in India for 60 years but they contribute nothing to India. Only complain and Indians are now going to speak up. The SUMAA students said the protests against Tibetans are only beginning and there will be more.

    After 60 years how can they still be refugees? They are not genuine refugees. They call themselves refugees and not get Indian passport so their Tibetan ‘government’ in Dharamsala can continue to market them to western countries and Japan to give them money. To get free money. Tibetan leaders love free money. Tibetans have big houses, nice cars and can travel to other countries. The Dalai Lama temples in Dharamsala have gold idols and gold paintings and live in very high luxury. Tibetan leaders already get money in the US billions in aid and yet they never improve. The Tibetans always say they have no opportunities in India. Why they say that? Because they are saying they are too good for India.

    They say they want autonomy with China but they fly the Tibetan flag on Indian soil. If they want autonomy, they should fly the Chinese flag and show China government they are serious to sit and talk. They are always lying. They protest against China on Indian soil making problems between India and China. India is not responsible for Tibetans. Tibetans should not make China India’s enemy. Don’t be selfish. China is not India’s problem. Tibetans should solve the problems themselves.

    Tibetan leaders only want money, money and more free things. They always make segregation among their people due to regional differences and religion. Look how they supress the Dorje Shugden religion and their own Dorje Shugden Tibetans cannot join in their schools or Dalai Lama’s talks and ceremonies. They treat the Dorje Shugden people like the low castes in India. Their Tibetan people cannot stand up on their own become something because their leaders want everything for free. When they go to western countries, they lose their culture, religion and language and pay a heavy price. Their children become more like the adopted country’s culture and people. Their ‘government’ in Dharamsala block them from getting Indian citizenship so they can continue using their fake refugee status to get money from the west. When India is so generous to give them citizenship, their own Tibetan minister in Dharamsala block this.

    Now Indians had enough and want Tibetans to get out and go home!

    SUMAA students heavily protest Part 1

    SUMAA students heavily protest Part 2

    Indians and Indian tribal people want Tibetans to go back to Tibet:

    Hundreds of Indians want Tibetans out of India. Protests are vowed to continue:

    Indian SUMAA leaders demanding state government to revoke refugee privileges for Tibetans

    And alternative videos:

    SUMAA students heavily protest

    Indians and Indian tribal people want Tibetans to go back to Tibet:

    Hundreds want Tibetans out of India! Protests are vowed to continue:

    Heavy protest in the hundreds by Indians for Tibetans to get out of India

  118. Lovett

    October 14, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    Within the Tibetan communities in India, there is no free speech and how Tibetans insult each other and would even insult foreigners by calling them Chinese agents just because you speak up and this is suppose to silence you. All of this began with the Tibetan CTA. Nonetheless, there are a handful of Tibetans who had enough and they dare to speak the truth and in this case, Tenpa Yarphel speaks against Nechung and veiled statements about the Shugden ban –
    And then there are people who would oppose his view by shaving his head. Very silly.

  119. Michaela Smith

    October 16, 2017 at 11:38 pm

    Real refugees vs. Tibetan ‘refugee’. Should developed countries continue to help Tibetans, the most prosperous ‘refugees’ on earth?

  120. Lhakpa

    October 17, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    Chokyong Nechung is wrong! Nechung in this video said that Dalai Lama is going back to China and that was five years ago? What happened? Why are we even listening to him ever again. He always make mistakes. 😱


  121. Lobsang Sangay

    October 17, 2017 at 12:20 pm

    Let’s face it… there is NO REAL FREEDOM of SPEECH for us Tibetans living under the ruling of the CTA and Dalai Lama. The Tibetan communities in India all sufer this fate and we live in lies and deception of a FAKE DEMOCRACY.

    Just watch how Tibetans insult and backstab each other and would even dare insult people they do not know, calling them Chinese dogs/Chinese spies is the only thing they can say and the label they give you the moment you dare to speak up. This is done to shut you up and to indicate to other Tibetans to attack you because they make you sound like you are a traitor and this is how they get all to turn against you. This is how the Tibetan CTA deals with people they feel threatened. All because of power and position.

    However, there are a few brave Tibetans who basically had enough of their deception and begin to speak up, to tell the truth. A good example is Tenpa Yarphel who bravely stood up and talked about Nechung and the inconsistency and FAILED prophesies… also the ridiculous heavy reliance on him for everything. Where on earth do you ever see any government relying on “mystical Gods” to help them make state decisions? Even if they did, they would not dare tell anyone because this is 2017 not the medieval times. Just watch –

    Then you have the small-minded, sheep like followers, shaving their hair – like WOW big deal, to protest against Tenpa Yarphel. Lololol

  122. Jamyang

    October 17, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    Question to Tibetan exile government, Central Tibetan Administration – CTA: Hey this Geshe Dorje interprets Nechung’s prophecy saying the Dalai Lama will go back to Tibet five years ago, but look, Dalai Lama still cannot go back. Watch…

    Not only that, there is still NO sign of even creating a good relationship for a chance to go back! So we are all stuck and still nowhere near going back to Tibet. So why on earth are we still listening to this spirit Nechung who always makes mistakes and give wrong prophecies? Nechung even killed the 13th Dalai Lama by giving him the wrong medicine. So WHY are we still listening to him for? Why are we Buddhist following what a spirit says? If we can follow Nechung spirit so why condemn Dogyal? This is weird and wrong!

  123. Pema Schneider

    October 19, 2017 at 9:04 am

    Lobsang Sangay at Golden Jubilee Celebration of Tibetan Settlement Office, Dharamsala:

    Losang Sangay said recently (October, 2017) in Dharamsala that Tibetans have two enemies: the outer and inner enemy. The outer enemies are the Chinese government and Dorje Shugden people. The inner enemy is the people who speak against about our Tibetan affairs like regional differences and religious differences. (He didn’t say this directly but he means people like Tenpa Yarphel who spoke up in the Parliament). He said out of the two enemies, the worse one is the inner enemy.

    Now the Tibetans have started a new Facebook page specifically against Tenpa Yarphel. Tibetans are protesting against him:

    And, there is a video of Tibetans with Tenpa Yarphel’s name on the paper against him and asking him to resign:

  124. Matteo

    October 19, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    His Holiness the Dalai Lama is a a dedicated advocate for the principles of democracy. In September this year, Tibetans in India celebrates the 57th anniversary of the establishment of the democratic path in the running of the Tibetan people’s political system. Sadly, it’s all just lip service.

    Look at the recent incident of MP Tenpa Yarphel speaking up. Tenpa Yarphel has the right to speak and express his opinion, especially because he is a representative of the people, a Member of Parliament. He was criticised for issueing irresponsible statements, watch this video here:

    What is absurd is that there are even people protesting against his opinion, and shaving their hair in protest:

    Tenpa Yarphel was accused of being sectarian, but the reality is that because of Nechung’s advice, Dorje Shugden practitioners were segregated, discriminated and ostracised from the Tibetan community in general all around the world. This MP is sick of seeing the separation and found the courage to speak up for the unity of the Tibetan people in exile. Do you agree?

  125. Lukar Jam supporter

    October 19, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    Nechung oracle is not reliable. Many times his predictions wrong.

    Nechung didn’t help when british in tibet in 1904. he gave wrong medicine to 13th dalai lama which caused His holiness’s death. he said in the past Tibetans going back to Tibet. In 2009, this Geshe Dorje read out what Nechung oracle said. How many years passed, negotiation talk never resume after Lobsang Sangay become Sikyong.

    Why we still believe Nechung? Watch this short clip and see how confident this Geshe was explaining, but it never came true:

  126. Tashi, Delhi

    October 20, 2017 at 9:29 am

    What is the CTA for a club? Going around pretending to be a democracy and only because of HH Dalai Lama they can make some foreign people believe it but it seems that karma is coming back.

    The CTA is suppressing their own people and having a good life with the money originally meant for the Tibetan people. On top, their elections are a farce!

    Listen here to Tenpa Yarphel who questions about the reliance of the Tibetan Government to Nechung, an oracle, which is understandable already but on top Nechung’s predictions seem to create more problems than anything else.

    What happens to Tenpa Yarphel now that he speaks up? Tibetans have started a Facebook page against Tenpa Yarphel and protest against him: They even ask Tenpa Yarphel to resign:

    So much for the “Democracy” in the Tibetan Government!!

  127. untomable

    October 23, 2017 at 5:05 am

    60 years already, what we can see is more and more disharmony within Tibetans, what we can see is more and more hopeless the Tibetans can be return to Tibet….😥

  128. Galen

    October 25, 2017 at 3:46 am

    If the Dalai Lama wishes to be on the middle way, then why is the MPs fighting for independence? it is totally against the HHDL’s wishes. No wonder there is no much political play in the CTA which lasted 60 years and many more to come. instead of uniting the Tibetans, they are causing a divide. Somehow, this may be a way for them to prolong the process so that they will get more international aid.

  129. Amanda

    October 29, 2017 at 12:55 am

    Are CTA with Dalai Lama or are they not? When it comes to the Dorje Shugden ban, they said they are merely following Dalai Lama’s instructions to execute what is necessary. But when it comes to the future of the Tibetans and Tibet, they want independence which is the complete opposite of what Dalai Lama wants! What I see is CTA does not want the Free Tibet cause to succeed, that is why they make sure there are so many conflicts and differences exist in the Tibetan community. As long as there is no unity, whether middle way or independence, it will not work. As long as Free Tibet cause is not going to work, CTA is able to to continue to get free money from the western countries in the expense of their own stateless Tibetan people.

  130. ashrao

    October 29, 2017 at 10:57 am

    Unfortunately, the dream of Tibetan democracy is nothing but that. Look at this brave Tenpa Yarphel speaking up against the spirit Nechung ( He brings up a good point, the Tibetans rely more on a spirit than they do on democratic principles and their own intelligence and care for their own people.

    But these Tibetans themselves are so enamored with the spirit that they protest against Tenpa Yarphel, lame protests, but protests nonetheless, like this man who cut off his hair ( I really don’t understand how this is a protest, but each to their own I guess.

    Personally, I don’t really think much of the Tibetans who follow their lame government. I’ve seen first-hand just how much the average Tibetan suffers under their current leadership and this just goes to show that their government is ineffective and schismatic. But one thing about this whole situation is somewhat promising, there is a silver lining, and that is the point was raised by a Tibetan MP within their parliament. He wouldn’t have done so if other people in the Tibetan community did not feel the same way. It is time for Tibetan to free themselves of a superstitious, money-grabbing, self-serving, and impotent government.

  131. Dawa Lhamo

    October 29, 2017 at 11:45 am

    Tibetan government are useless, they rely on Nechung

    Any you know what, their supporters even cut their hair off because they don’t agree with MP. This guy funny.

    What this going to change?

  132. ashrao

    October 29, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    The Tibetan government keep relying on Nechung for everything, though all his predictions and advice cause more damage than harm. Is it even wise to follow his advice, I mean he was wrong about His Holiness the Dalai Lama returning to Tibet in five years

    That was in 2009, we are now in 2017, which was 8 years ago. Is his advice really trust worthy? I wonder why the Tibetan government even continue to listen to him. Perhaps they get something out of it?

  133. Tashi Gonkatsang

    October 29, 2017 at 1:12 pm

    This ashrao posted this video:

    What he said is true. I couldn’t believe it at first, because I never heard my parents or relatives tell much such things before. But when I asked my uncle who is a monk, he told me it is true. He said that Nechung gave bad advice and has continued to give bad advice. My uncle said that even many of the monks and high lamas don’t even believe in anything Nechung says. Better to say no rather than listening to his advice from now on. My parents were shocked. They used to go and see Nechung oracle when they were in India, but luckily I was able to move them to the USA. Now we better off. I can’t believe that the government still listen to the Nechung.

  134. Hi I'm Lobsang Sangye I'm a liar

    October 29, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    It’s quite refreshing to have someone from the parliament speaking up and raising questions about the unjustness that’s been happening within its own “government”. Tenpa Yarphel is extremely brave to speak up like that, Tibetans HAVE TO WATCH IT! 👍

    1. Tibetan shaves off his hair in protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel 2017 Sept

    2. Tibetan Parliament member representing Kagyu School Ven. Tenpa Yarphel speaks against Nechung

    Then of course, we have some intelligent individuals such as Geshe Dorje himself, who just wants attention, talks big but does nothing else 🙄 :

  135. TseringD, Delhi

    October 29, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    I m think Nechung is one of d best when I m watch dis video By Geshe Dorjee la but now I m think is not d truth n he is lie to Tibet people we r not back to Tibet yt Chithue Tenpa Yarphel la tq for talk about truth of Nechung . I m watch to this video many time la n after I hear you talk I m not belief to Nechung

    ZUMA 👎

  136. Why CTA Why

    October 30, 2017 at 5:33 am

    Watch Geshe Dorje does interpret Nechung’s prophecies!

    After the Nechung oracle takes trance, his answers are interpreted and explained by Geshe Dorje, a Buddhist master from Nechung Monastery.

    The video from 2009 proves that Nechung is wrong again! Why rely on Nechung when all his prophecies are wrong?? Someone with a hidden agenda maybe?!!

  137. Michaela Smith

    October 30, 2017 at 7:29 am

    Only the CTA relies on the Nechung and made the spirit who gave so many false advice so much privilleges

  138. Namdrol

    October 30, 2017 at 7:56 am

    MP Tenpa Yarphel is very brave to questioned the validity and accuracy of the spirit Nechung who the Dalai Lama always consulted, apparently Nechung has been giving highly inaccurate prophecies, but people still keep using him because Dalai Lama keeps using him and nobody dare to say otherwise, although Nechung is full of mistake, no wonder Tibetans did not get back their country even after 60 years:

    Look at this guy’s way of protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel and you know why the Tibetans will never get back their country:

  139. Amber Sonam

    October 30, 2017 at 8:34 am

    Bravo to MP Tenpa Yarphel who is brave enough to speak up! CTA has a lot of dodgy business going on even it’s own MP cannot keep quiet anymore. Watch what is being said here

    Yet, those in denial continue to support the corruptions within the CTA by shaving off his hair in protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel

    He is also supported by Geshe Dorje himself who is riding on the Nechung issue giving no concrete proof as usual

  140. Michaela Smith

    October 30, 2017 at 8:46 am

    I would like to share with you about this courageous Tibetan parliament MP who is speaking up against Nechung. He received a lot of backlash due to his bravery, but I hope it won’t deter him to speak up in the future. There are many people who actually agree with him

    1. Tibetan Parliament member representing Kagyu School, speak up about Nechung

    2. Tibetan shaves off his hair in protest against MP Tenpa Yarphel 2017 Sept

  141. Gloria

    October 30, 2017 at 9:19 am

    I hope CTA will be able to do more for their people. I have often wondered where all the funds they have received in kind has gone to. The MPs and CTA staffs seem to be doing very well, more so than the general Tibetan. I wonder why.

  142. Tenzin Ngawang

    November 17, 2017 at 10:37 am

    This is how China received President Trump

    On the other hand, how President Trump would have reacted to the CTA reception is a big question mark

  143. Ngodup Tsering

    November 18, 2017 at 11:42 pm


  144. Anonymous

    November 25, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    The Dalai Lama wants the Middle Way or Umaylam, and the Dalai Lama doesn’t want Dorje Shugden.

    So those who want Full Independence from China or Rangzen are against the Dalai Lama. Those who practice Dorje Shugden are also against the Dalai Lama. Both groups are in the same situation. Are both groups against the Dalai Lama or are both groups simply exercising their democratic rights?

  145. Tsering

    March 3, 2018 at 6:55 am

    Comic drawn by Tendor, a prominent Free Tibet activist.

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